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Its not about me. The purpose here is to encourage you to STUDY on your own. Not follow the latest doctrinal fads and teachers.

Dressing up for Jesus?

1 Tim 2:8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.

9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

 

Many churches today exclude the undesireables by setting standards they know they cannot meet.

Whether it be the outer facade of the structure, to the inner design looking like a kings palace, or a bank, to the 2500.00 silk suit and alligator shoes the preacher is wearing , they all serve to filter out the poor, “un desireables” and “shallow pocketed” believers.  Is your church guilty of this?

 

A lady told me the story of a poor man who would take his five children to the biggest church in town. Why? Because it was the closest to his house , and he could not afford a lot of gas, and it was too far to walk, but his wife dressed his kids as best as she could, and he made the trip every Sunday and dropped his five children off at that big old fancy church , in the middle of town across from the courthouse, you know, the one with the stain glass windows and the marble columns? 4 stories high? Yeah, that one. He didnt go inside because he did not have a fancy clothes, or even a decent pair of shoes to wear, but he sat in that car faithfully for two hours every Sunday so his children would hear the gospel in all that vanity. The “lady that told me this story is my oldest sister.

 

That man was my father. He passed away when I was 5 years old.

 

Next time you “dress up for Jesus” think about how blessed you are to be able to, and how how a poor person would feel in your church.  Are you too dressed up?  Showing off your clothes?  How would a person of a lesser station and means feel in the pew with you?

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The silliness of SDA

To illustrate the silliness of SDA, for one to truly observe the seventh day as the Sabbath day, since our days are not exactly 24 hours long, and our year is not exactly 365 days long, it creates a problem. You would soon be observing sabbath on all the other days of the week also, and would very seldom see sabbath even fall on a Saturday at all.

Thats not mentioning the fact that you would have to backtrack 6000 years, to find the reference point to even begin to figure out what day to call sabbath.

Scofield Errors.

What many believers are taught today is common Scofield doctrine.

While no doubt well intentioned, Scofield didn’t have a clue about many major doctrines in the bible. One  of his biggest errors concerns the first resurrection,  and his errant teachings have misled generations of preachers ,teachers, missionaries and believers in general. He was a plajerist as well. Most of his doctrines came from others before him , he just put a little different spin on them. Error piled upon error. I hope this commentary helps.

Scofield teaches one resurrection”?

Actually there are TWO. the first resurrection is the resurrection of the believing dead. The Jewish harvest is tge pattern for the first resurrection. It has 3 main harvests (OT, NT, Trib saints) (pesach, shavout, succoth) it started with the first fruits in Matthew 27:52, and ends with the gleanings in Rev 20:4-6 the second resurrection, or “second death” will be at least 1000 years into the future.

This is resurrection of ALL unbelievers from Adams day to that time. Psalms 1:5 the wicked will not stand in the congregation of the righteous in judgement.

You are right about the second coming, there is only one. The rapture is not a second coming, it is a removal of the body of Christ , when it happens, every believer alive on earth, will be removed, it occurs simultaneously with the harvest of the barley, the dead NT saints.

 

The first resurrection harvest

Food for thought: the first resurrection mirrors the Jewish harvest. It goes in this order.  Firstfruits, Pesach, shavout, Succoth, and ends with the gleanings.

The Jewish harvest:

Three main harvests of DEAD saints. Matt 27:52-53 (OT saints) 1 thess 4:13-17 (the dead in Christ shall rise first) the barley.  Ruth met Boaz in the barley harvest.

 

The barley harvest and the rapture:  The dead New Testament AND LIVING SAINTS at that time. 1 thess 4:13-17, 1 Cor 15:52-53  Rev 5:9 Rev 7:9-10,

Another harvest into the barn comes mid tribulation.

Mid tribulation MARTYRS, dead people, no living ones, rev 7:9-10
Then the olives, and the firstfruits of the wheat, then the last reaping, again DEAD MARTYRS, (else you’d have no mortals to repopulate the earth,)

 

And finally the gleanings, rev 20:4-6, those dead that were killed in the interim from the last reaping to the return of the Lord of the harvest.

The rapture of the bride is a one time event. It occurs simultaneously with the barley harvest before the tribulation starts. No living believers go up in the harvests after the rapture or during the tribulation, only martyrs at their harvest times.

At the rapture, WE will return to the fathers house for the marriage of the Lamb. We also return with him. Zech 14:5, 1 thess 3:13

The taking of the bride has no set date.
The marriage lasts 7 days, 7 years in our case to give guests time to
arrive and participate.

Jesus returns with his bride and all the resurrected saints killed in the tribulation EXCEPT those killed after the last harvest and his return. They are raised and glorified in rev 20:4-6.

Surviving believers will be gathered “from the four winds” at this time, surviving UNbelievers will be killed.

The trib saints alive at Jesus return enter the kingdom reign as kingdom saints and citizens, in mortal bodies, WE will rule and reign with Christ in immortal bodies.

Again, the harvest has three main phases. It starts with first fruits, the exact day Jesus arose from the dead, and it ends with the gleanings in rev 20:4-6.

Pesach: OT saints.(first fruits of the barley) Shavout (to remove) NT saints, (main barley harvest)

Succoth: several fruits (olives, figs, pomegranites, grapes and wheat)

And lastly, the gleanings ends this last phase of the harvest of dead saints. This is the first resurrection:

 

It begins:

IS 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. (Firstfruits of the barley) dead OT saints.

Fulfilled in Matt 27:52-53: And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

Next: US, and the believing dead after the cross:
1 thess 4:13 “the dead in Christ shall rise first” (barley harvest, dead NT saints)

1 Cor 15:52 “in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye” the PRETRUBALTION removal of all the world’s LIVING believers, the Rapture simultaneously with  the barley harvest see rev 5:9-10(Ruth met Boaz gkeaning in the barley field)

Next crop:

Rev 7:9-10 dead mid trib saints ,  (no living believers)  the beginning of the fruit harvest join the assembly at the marriage in heaven

Rev 11 (the two prophets, the olives)

Rev 14 “and the earth was reaped” (DEAD trib saints, no living ones.  This is end trib, the wheat)

(The grapes are the LIVING unbelievers gathered at armegeddon and those killed when Jesus returns with all his saints) Jesus treads the winepress alone.

Rev 20:4-6 , end trib DEAD, no living ones are raised at Jesus return. These died in the interim from the last harvest to Jesus return. They are the gleanings. This is the first resurrection.

The LIVING believers that survived the trib are NOT RAPTURED, they are gathered to Jerusalem and given the kingdom as citizen saints. In MORTAL bodies.

One big problem with the post trib rapture doctrine.

At the rapture, ALL living and dead believers will be glorified to immortality.  Few debate that.

Immortals do not marry or give in marriage. So, if the rapture is post trib, it would leave no mortals to repopulate the earth in the kingdom. Logically then, the rapture of the bride occurs before this. It cannot be post trib.

 

There will be a church in the tribulation, and they will go through it. And be persecuted. It will be composed of believers that got saved AFTER the taking of the bride. Id think former muslims and Jews. These are those killed for the faith , and will be raised at different times during the tribulation. I count at least three harvests, including the gleanings in rev 20:4-6 We will NOT be in that number. We will have already left in the rapture before the tribulation begins. And again, in the rapture of the bride, which occurs at one of the harvests of the first resurrection, living believers are caught up and changed. In the harvests that follow, only the dead are resurrected, else you would not have a mortal remnant Israel, or a remnant of mortal gentile nations to repopulate the earth in the kingdom. Immortals dont procreate.

 

Moreover it is pretty difficult to explain away this logical conclusion:   You have people in heaven before, during, and at the end of the tribulation. They had to come from somewhere.

The presence of the elders and an assembly “of all nations” in rev 5 before the trib starts on rev 6 is proof a bride is on the premises.

 

Morever, the marriage cannot begin formalization until the bride is in her chambers at the fathers house. The bride is present. After the groom gets back to his fathers house with his bride, It begins with  the paperwork. Lol!  The signing of the Ketubah in the presence of the elders. The ceremony comes afterwards. The bride gets this document. It is a prenuptial agreement “to him that overcometh I will” its also a marriage license. Documentation and iron clad proof of the marriage.

More food for thought: A Jewish wedding goes like this : the groom prepares a place for his bride in his father’s home. When his father approves the home, he gives his son permission to fetch his bride. He assembles a wedding party, and sers out for her house.   He surprises her, usually late at night.

 

Within hearing distance of her house, with a trumpet blast , to wake her and her friends, and give her time to grab her things, then a shout when he is outside the doors.

She veils herself, meets him in the yard, and they go back to the fathers house. She is then hidden away in the bridal chamber until the wedding. The groom then sits down with both fathers to finalize the ketubah, (Paul said “I have betrothed you to one husband”) tbe Ketuvah, or Ketubah is the prenuptial, unconditional promises of the marriage (“to him that overcometh I will”)

 

This is a legal, binding contract that is signed and given to the bride.

Meanwhile, there is a reception and a one week celebration taking place.

Since the wedding had no set date initially, the week gives family the travel time needed to make arrangements, buy gifts (oil) if they havent already, and to get to the wedding, so as to not miss such a wonderful time, and it gives late arrivals the opportunity to fellowship and be there for the actual ceremony.

The bride and groom are there, and fellowship, she is veiled, and they cannot be in the same room together unveiled until the wedding.

When everyone that is expected to be there has arrived, the bride makes herself ready. (Rev 19:7) She was already technically his wife the night he snatched her away, but the marriage supper formalizes everything to all, and they are then publicly man and wife.

After the ceremonial exchange of rings (crowns in our case), and the supper the party then picks up and proceeds to the brides MOTHERS house (the nation Israel, sic 777 Mt Zion avenue) for ANOTHER, even longer marriage celebration.

The saints that join the marriage supper assembly in Revelation are the< tribulation martyrs, raised at different points in the tribulation. (Wheat, olives, figs, pomegranites) They had to die to get there, none were raptured alive (I’m dying to go to that wedding, lol!) “Blessed are they that die in the Lord from thenceforth” (they get to go to the wedding as friends of the bridegroom) Living believers will not be harvested after the taking of the bride, else there would be no remnant of Israel in mortal bodies at the second coming , or any other mortal believers to repopulate the earth in the kingdom.

 

 

Israel’s blessing.

Here is what I think is going to happen after the rapture of the bride concerning Israel.

The bride of Christ, Every believer in Christ will be removed from the earth in an instant. This begins the tribulation

Islam will rule by default. The beast and the NWO will rise. BUT, God will protect ISRAEL via a peace treaty with the beast.
Two prophets, some say Enoch and Elijah , will return and preach on the streets of Jerusalem for 1260 days. Millions will be saved, and killed for their testimony.
The two prophets will have the powers of Moses, able to call fire down from heaven and send droughts and plagues on their enemies. During this time, no man can kill them.
After 1260 days their ministry ends, and they are killed, and they are called up to heaven “come up hither” , and all other dead believers killed since the beginning of the tribulation will also rise with them.
A great earthquake follows, at this time, the antichrist will amass an army and overrun Israel. The remnant will flee to Petra (theres already an agreement with Jordan to use Petra as a city of refuge)

For 1260 MORE days they will wait there for their redeemer.

The 144k chosen will preach the gospel across the world. Billions will be saved and killed for their faith in Christ.

During this time alsl, Jesus pours out his wrath on an unbelieving world, while Israel, again, the apple of Gods eye is protected.
At the end of this 1260 days, the Lord will return, and destroy the antichrist and his armies at armegeddon.

After the battle is won, he will rescue the remnant from Petra, and lead them back across the Jordan river into their land , never to be removed again.
Has God forgotten Israel? Not hardly.

 

 

Bible Study Tools

10.1. The Jewish Wedding Analogy
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10. Marriage of the Lamb 10.2. Roles in the Wedding Party
Although various sources describing the practice of Jewish marriage at the time of Christ differ in the details, there is general agreement concerning its major elements. Unlike Western marriage practices, the Jewish marriage has a greater degree of formalism involving numerous steps:
Jewish marriage included a number of steps: first, betrothal (which involved the prospective groom’s traveling from his father’s house to the home of the prospective bride, paying the purchase price, and thus establishing the marriage covenant); second, the groom’s returning to his father’s house (which meant remaining separate from his bride for 12 months, during which time he prepared the living accommodations for his wife in his father’s house); third, the groom’s coming for his bride at a time not known exactly to her; fourth, his return with her to the groom’s father’s house to consummate the marriage and to celebrate the wedding feast for the next seven days (during which the bride remained closeted in her bridal chamber).1

First, the father of the groom made the arrangements for the marriage and paid the bride price. The timing of the arrangement varied. Sometimes it occurred when both children were small, and at other times it was a year before the marriage itself. Often the bride and groom did not even meet until their wedding day. The second step, which occurred a year or more after the first step, was the fetching of the bride. The bridegroom would go to the home of the bride in order to bring her to his home. In connection with this step, two other things should be noted. First, it was the father of the groom who determined the timing. Second, prior to the groom’s leaving to fetch the bride, he must already have a place prepared for her as their abode. This was followed by the third step, the wedding ceremony, to which a few would be invited. Prior to the wedding ceremony, the bride underwent a ritual immersion for ritual cleansing. The fourth step, the marriage feast, would follow and could last for as many as seven days. Many more people would be invited to the feast than were to the marriage ceremony. In the Marriage of the Lamb all four of these steps of the Jewish wedding ceremony are evident.2

The major steps of the Jewish wedding analogy are summarized below with related Scriptures:
Steps in a Jewish Wedding
Step Description Scriptures
Marriage Covenant The father pays for the bride and establishes the marriage covenant. Acts Acts 20:28; 1Cor. 1Cor. 6:19-20; 1Cor. 11:25 Eph. Eph. 5:25-27
Bridal Chamber Prepared The son returns to his father’s house and prepares the bridal chamber. John John 6:62; John 14:2; Acts Acts 1:9-11
Bride Fetched At a time determined by the father (Mtt. Mat. 24:36), the groom fetches the bride to bring her to his father’s house. “Although the bride was expecting her groom to come for her, she did not know the time of his coming. As a result, the groom’s arrival was preceded by a shout, which forewarned the bride to be prepared for his coming.”3 John John 14:3; 1Th. 1Th. 4:13-18

the time of his arrival was a surprise – the bride and her bridal party were always to be ready – this is the background of Yeshua’s parable (Mat. 25:1-13). It was customary for one of the grooms party to go ahead of the bridegroom, leading the way to the bride’s house – and shout – “Behold, the bridegroom comes.” This would be followed by the sounding of the shofar. At the sounding of the shofar the entire wedding processional would go through the streets of the city to the bride’s house. The groomsmen would again set up the huppah:
Again the couple would say a blessing over the cup of wine.
The ceremony finalized the promises and vows.
The pinnacle of this joyful celebration was the marriage supper:
It was much more than just a sit down dinner for all the guests.
It included seven full days of food, music, dance and celebration – (Jn. 14:10-12).

Jesus treads the winepress alone. His second coming.

Actually, Jesus returns ALONE. He trods the winepress alone. He destroys the beast at armegeddon. Then returns to heaven, opens the doors and brings his saints with him. With many crowns on his head and His vesture dipped in blood from his victory at armegeddon. The saints killed after the last reaping up to armegeddon are raised to life at his return.

ISA 26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.

Isa 63:3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.

Rev 14:19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.”

Rev 19 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.

Rev 1:5-6 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

 

And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Rev 5:9-10 ( pre trib harvest of the saints)

Rev 7:9-10 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10 And they cried out in a loud voice:

“Salvation belongs to our God,
who sits on the throne,
and to the Lamb.” (mid trib harvest of the saints)
Rev 14:16
And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. (Harvest of the post trib saints)
Rev 20:4-6 (the gleanings, those that died in the interim up to Jesus return)
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.