Lordship salvation and Calvinism: Close kin

Lordship salvation is a first cousin to Calvinism. Essentially says that if you don’t perservere in faithfulness and good works to the end, you’ll go to hell. The rub is that it is a huuge gamble from a lost man’s viewpoint.
Logically if he’s prone to relapse into alcoholism or drugs, why bother? The very thing he cannot defeat on his own keeps him from heaven. Really now? His salvation rests in defeating drug addiction. His own works. 

But what church wants drunks and drug addicts and other undesirables “polluting the church, and smelling up the congregation and those expensive padded pews anyway right”?

Today’s churches are in such a sad state. It breaks my heart. 

For the Calvinist, it’s a similar principle. The works mainly amount to staying a Calvinist. But even then, he cannot be sure according to Calvin. He may be under temporal or evanescent grace. His only hope is to stay in the cult. Leave, and he’s going to hell. Can a Calvinist be saved? If he is a believer in Christ, sure he is. Can a Lordship salvationist be saved? If he’s a believer in Christ, sure he is. But both teachings are exclusive and non inclusive of others outside their doctrines. That’s religion, not Christianity. 

And just think, one could spend an entire life in doing good works and faithfulness, blow it at the end, and none of it counts for a thing. Both dichotomys paralell Calvins institutes 3:2:11. That’s not the gospel. Salvation rests in Christ Jesus, , and in him alone. Salvation is the free gift of God to all that believe in the name of his only begotten Son. 

In closing, yes I freely accepted Christ of my own free will, but just like the bride in the OT, after that point, I no longer have a choice, I am bought with a price, the shed blood of Jesus. I belong to Jesus, I cannot change that, and Christ abideth faithful. That is the gospel. That is assurance. There is no greater feeling. No greater joy. No greater love.(J.Dixon)

The false god of Calvinism and Islam. An uncomfortable affinity.

There is very little difference between the false god of calvinism and the false god of islam. The god of Calvinism is not the Lord Jesus Christ.

Sura 14:4 And We have sent no Messenger save with the tongue of his people, that he might make all clear to them; then God leads astray whomsoever He will, and He guides whomsoever He will; and He is the All-mighty, the All-wise.

This describes the god of calvinism to a T. But wait!, there is more.


The following verses from the Quran show that nothing happens unless ordained by Allah. That includes the good and the bad. The commentary also shows the attitudes that a Muslim needs to adopt in times of hardship and difficulties.

In Surah At-Tawba Allah gives His servants the assurance of His protection. He Says:

Say: “Nothing shall ever happen to us except what Allah has ordained for us. He is our Mawla (protector).” And in Allah let the believers put their trust.)

Quran (Surah Tawba, Verse 51)
In Surah Hadid, Allah (SWT) Makes it more explicit that He decides what is to happen in our lives and that He has a purpose for it. He says:

This describes the false god of the Calvinist to a T also. But wait!, there is more!



According to John Calvin in his Institites 3:2:11,The false god of Calvinism decieves people. Well guess what?  Any muslim will tell you the false god of islam decieves people also.
The Quran describes Allah as the best deceiver there is, a liar who is not above using the same evil and wicked schemes of his opponents.
For example, the Quran calls Allah a deciever, in fact the best deceiver there is:
But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers (Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf. 8:30
Other texts that identify Allah as a makr include:
Are they then secure from Allah’s deception (makra Allahi)? None deemeth himself secure from Allah’s deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish. S. 7:99
So they schemed a scheme: and We schemed a scheme (Wamakaroo makran wamakarna makran), while they perceived not. S. 27:50
The word for deception/deceiver/scheme is makr. The lexical sources define the term as:
Miim-Kaf-Ra = To practice deceit or guile or circumvention, practice evasion or elusion, to plot, to exercise art or craft or cunning, act with policy, practice stratagem.
makara vb. (1)
perf. act. 3:54, 3:54, 7:123, 13:42, 14:46, 16:26, 16:45, 27:50, 40:45, 71:22
impf. act. 6:123, 6:123, 6:124, 8:30, 8:30, 8:30, 10:21, 12:102, 16:127, 27:70, 35:10
n.vb. 7:99, 7:99, 7:123, 10:21, 10:21, 12:31, 13:33, 13:42, 14:46, 14:46, 14:46, 27:50, 27:50, 27:51, 34:33, 35:10, 35:43, 35:43, 71:22
pcple. act. 3:54, 8:30
LL, V7, p: 256 (Source)


John Calvin taught that God sometimes lies to people, giving them the feeling that they are saved even though in fact they are not, and the reason he does this is so he can damn them with even greater ferocity afterward.

(Jean Calvin, institutes) Experience shows that the reprobate are sometimes affected in a way so similar to the elect that even in their own judgment there is no difference between them. Hence, it is not strange, that by the Apostle a taste of heavenly gifts, and by Christ himself a temporary faith is ascribed to them. Not that they truly perceive the power of spiritual grace and the sure light of faith; but the Lord, the better to convict them, and leave them without excuse, instills into their minds such a sense of goodness as can be felt without the Spirit of adoption …. there is a great resemblance and affinity between the elect of God and those who are impressed for a time with a fading faith …. Still it is correctly said, that the reprobate believe God to be propitious to them, inasmuch as they accept the gift of reconciliation, though confusedly and without due discernment; not that they are partakers of the same faith or regeneration with the children of God; but because, under a covering of hypocrisy they seem to have a principle of faith in common with them. Nor do I even deny that God illumines their mind to this extent …. there is nothing inconsistent in this with the fact of his enlightening some with a present sense of grace, which afterwards proves evanescent (3.2.11, Institutes).


The calvinist god decieves people. So does the god of islam.
The Calvinist god controls all things. So does the false god of islam
The false god of calvinism chooses who he will and destroys who he will. So does the false god of islam.
The calvinist has no assurance of salvation, because his false god may have him deceived, and have him under evenescent grace or temporal grace.

The false god of islam operates the same way. For a Muslim or a Calvinist to even have a chance at salvation, they must remain in the cult. Leave the cult, and its hell for certain. By staying in, at least there’s a chance. There is no assurance in either religion.

If you are a Calvinist, or a Muslim, You’re worshipping an idol. The false god of calvinism and islam. Namely Molech, the false god of human sacrifice. Behind every idol is a demon. The Lord Jesus will not hold you guiltless.


The Judgements explained.

No one will stand judgement in regards to salvation.

Salvation one way or the other is determined before and finalized at death.

No unbeliever will stand in the congregation of the righteous in judgement. (Psalms 1:5)
A believers judgement will be separate from unbelievers. Niether will be in regards to salvation, for the believer, it will be to determine rewards and crowns. For unbelievers, the degree of suffering in the lake if fire. “Each according to his works”

No unbeliever will stand judgement until the end of the mellinial reign. Salvation is determined before death. Not according to works, but according to what one believed.


The elders in the Book of Revelation


Post tribulation and mid tribulation rapture advocates cannot tell  you where these elders came from. They are introduced in chapter 4 of the book of Revelation, with the tribulation beginning after this in chapter six. HOW. DID. THEY. GET. THERE?. Where did they come from?

Revelation shows us essentially 3 groups of people. The elders, the bride, primarily gentiles , and the tribulation martyrs. The raptured saints after the cross appear in rev 5:9-10, “out of all nations”  “Kings and priests unto God, and we shall reign on the earth” 1 Thess 4:16-17″the dead in Christ shall rise first” these are the second phase of the first resurrection, shavout,  Leah, the wheat. The NT saints. These also appear BEFORE the beginning of the tribulation in chapter 6. This is the pre trib rapture.

The tribulation martyrs arrive in soul and spirit, DURING the tribulation, (rev 6:9-11) but are not resurrected until revelation 20:4-6. These are given white robes and told to rest a little longer until the rest are killed as they were. This group is Rachel, the olives, Succoth, primarily the nation Israel, the priests unto God in the kingdom Temple. These are the third phase of the first resurrection.(see “the first resurrection”, and “our future, Kings and priests unto God”) elsewhere in this blog.


 Mid and post tribbers cannot explain where the elders in Revelation come from without conceding a pre trib rapture. They are in heaven and are introduced before the tribulation even begins.

The book of revelation is a wedding narrative. You’ll see the elders and the bride in Rev 5:9-10 BEFORE the tribulation starts.(Matt 27:52-53, 1 Thess 4:16-17).

 The friends of the bridegroom, tribulation martyrs, arrive during the tribulation, and are told to rest a while longer before their resurrection in rev 20:4-6.

Pre trib deniers have yet to explain how the elders in the opening chapters BEFORE the trib begins got there in the first place. They lack understanding.

Will you “perservere”?

In Calvinism, it is known as Perserverance of the saints” in other religions, its referred to as “enduring to the end” both total idiocy.

Here is ihe implication of both false doctrines:

“If they live right (by the world’s standards) and “perservere” til they die, they were in fact “elect”. (Osas)
” if they lived right sayy, 30 years faithfully, and messed up at the end, and died an alcoholic or drug addict, they were never “elect” in the first place, they just THOUGHT they were.” (maybe saved once then lost, or maybe not. Ostl)

30 years of good works and faithfulness down the tubes. Doesnt count for a thing. What a shame huh? The calvinist god deceived them. Great way to stay on both sides of the security of the believer issue.

It begs the question “how do YOU know you are elect? You dont. You may fail in the end. “why take the gamble? I’ll just wait”. Last rites anyone? Silly religion.

Was King James a Calvinist?


For your toolboxes: Answering a lie: (my response to a Calvinist that claimed King James was a Calvinist. Reference provided by Michael Allen.

King James Stewart was not a Calvinist: At least know what and who you are talking about before you  fancy to use King James as a crutch to prop up Calvinism, (it is also a logical fallacy called “appeal to authority” King James religion is irrelevant), you have undermined your own premise.

(From the book “the works of James Arminius D.D.”  page 3).

In an interview with his majesty, at the Palace of St. Theobald’s, the year after the conclusion of the synod of Dort, the King said, respecting the Calvinists, who made God the author of sin:
” This doctrine is so horrible, that I am persuaded, if there were a council of unclean spirits assembled in hell, and their prince the devil were to put the question either to all of them in general, or to each in particular, to learn their opinion about the most likely means of stirring up the hatred of men against God their Maker; nothing could he invented by them that would be more efficacious for this purpose, or that could put a greater affront upon God’s love for mankind, than that infamous decree of the late Synod [of Dort], and the decision of that detestable formulary, by which the for greater part of the human race are condemned to hell for no other reason, than the mere will of God, without any regard to sin; the necessity of sinning, as well as that of being damned, being fastened on them by that great nail of the decree before-mentioned.” (King James Stewart)”

King James was NOT a Calvinist.

The bride of Calvinism: Molech’s wife.


Just as the Jewish betrothal and marriage is a picture and illustration of our salvation and relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ in Christianity, the salvation and relationship of a Calvinist to their god, molech, the muslim god, can also be illustrated by marriage: specifically the muslim child bride.

The Jewish betrothal/marriage and calvinist/muslim marriage are polar opposites. One is of Christ, the other of Satan.
Unlike a Jewish bride, Calvinism’s bride has no choice in the matter: Before she is born, she is betrothed. But not all the girls will be picked: (some appointed for glory, some for destruction) she does not choose the groom, he chooses her: (“unconditional election”) she had no choice, (irresistable grace)  nor did the ones not chosen or found worthy for whatever reason.
She is bought, sold, and most often is resold or traded, or forsaken completely when she no longer pleases her groom or finds favor in his eyes:(“perserverance of the saints”) she cannot question or challenge him, its not permitted.

She can be harshly punished for doing so.(hell for apostasy) She cannot challenge, disparage or dispute with her husband. )She must”Protect the prophet, Calvin”)

She is not permitted study on her own, a man must teach her. (Calvin, or mohmed)

She must obey and agree with his doctrines and his teachings regardless.

She’s to remain silent in public. Her opinion is worthless. Shes basically a slave with no will of her own.

It’s not difficult to see its paralells with the evil doctrines of Jean Calvin.