The catalyst that begins the tribulation.

If one can imagine a world with no Christians all of a sudden, it would mean most of America would be gone. 2 billion people all over the world, gone. Our military- most of it gone. Our farmers- most all gone. Cops, prison guards, paramedics, doctors, nurses, our LEADERS,- GONE.

Now imagine the empty houses, empty cars, unplanted and unharvested fields, and the bills and debts we’d all leave behind. Its not hard to see food shortages, financial collapse of banks and the federal reserve. Muslim dominated countries, China,  (the dragon), North Korea and many other atheist nations would barely notice the absence of the Christians. The global balance of power will change in an instant.

In the blink of an eye, Islam will be the dominant religion by default. With 2 billion followers. Worldwide Jihad will follow.

America will turn into a third world country overnight.

The UN would gladly step in, confiscate guns, and declare martial law. New leaders would be appointed to replace those believers that went in the pre trib rapture.

 

The NWO UN would take over America without a shot being fired.

There won’t be a believer on the planet for a time.

This world will not be a good place for a believer in Christ then, but even so, folks will believe, and the two prophets preaching in Israel and the 144k after them will begin a worldwide revival.

The pre trib catching away is actually the catalyst that begins the tribulation. Now, other saints will come to the faith after the bride is taken out. No doubt, I can imagine millions and millions of muslims and Jews being saved and killed for their faith in Christ. We are not going to be here to witness that. We will be at a party in heaven. The marriage supper of the Lamb. (See my other posts for more details)”Therefore, comfort one another with these words”

Another explanation:

The Jewish harvest;

The first fruits were at Jesus resurrection and the main harvest is from 1 thess 4:13-17 to rev 14:16, the last reaping And the gleanings are in rev 20:4-6.
The first resurrection is a harvest over a period of time, 2000 years, the reaping several harvests from from the cross to the return of the Lord. Thats the only way you can explain all those graves being opened, the dead in Christ rising first, the earth being reaped , and the dead rising in rev 20:4-6

The harvests INCLUDE a pre trib, mid trib, and end trib harvest of saints, with the ones killed after the last reaping (the gleanings) raised to life in rev 20:4-6.

 

Supporting scriptures (not all inclusive, you may find there are others)

Matt 27:50-53 And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit.

51 At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split 52 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and[e] went into the holy city and appeared to many people

1 thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Rev 7:14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

ev 11And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

Rev 14:16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

Rev 20:4-6 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

 

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The resurrection of Jesus in the Old Testament.

IS 26:19. Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.

Fulfilled in matthew 27:52-53. And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

Key word: “together with my dead body they shall rise”

Post trib? Mid trib? Pre trib?

What if I told you all three are true?

Thought for the day: just my opinion.

People get the harvests of the first resurrection and Jesus final return confused. Theres the firstfruits. Matt 27:52-53. , the main harvest, 1 thess 4:13-17 , then olives -mid trib saints, (rev 7) then the gleanings, the post tribulation saints ,rev 20:4-6. This is the first resurrection.

“Blessed and holy are that have part in the first resurrection, for they shall be kings and priests unto God, and shall reign with him on the earth.” (Rev 5:9-10, rev 20:4-6)

Jesus returns and sets up his kingdom at the end of the harvest.

What I am saying is that pre trib , (1 thess 4:13-17) mid trib (rev 7), and finally post trib rapture “and the earth was reaped” do not contradict. All three can be true.

Folks are too dogmatic , narrowminded and have presuppositional biases that prevent them from just letting the Bible say what it says.

Scofield didnt teach that. You heard it here first.

Youve got dead people rising in several places in the Bible. Matt 27:52-53 “and the graves were opened” then Paul tells us “the dead in Christ shall rise first” , then theres a great assembly in heaven in rev chapter 5:9-10, then the tribulation begins in chapter 6, then at the 3.5 year mark, the two prophets are killed come back to life and rise ANOTHER great congregation joins the first “these came out of great tribulation” , and finally , rev 20:4-6 after Jesus return, speaks of trib martyrs “and they lived again” and reigned with him 1000 years.

I can easily place a pre trib, mid trib, and post trib rapture-all three, within that dichotomy.

Now imagine how fast the world would change overnight if all the Christians vanished?

A billion muslims left behind with all those atheists and unbelievers.  Farmers in America-gone. Doctors, nurses, paramedics, policemen, prison gaurds, – gone.  Our military- most of it gone. All those un paid bills and mortgages left behind  banks collapse, food shortages, islam declares jihad worldwide.

 

It is not hard to see the tribulation beginning in the Chaos, economic ruin, famines, and religious persecution follow.

Even in all this tribulation, people will still come to the Lord for salvation, Right up to the end.

On the Lord’s supper and baptism.

Many sects out there today are going around setting up a false dilemma concerning grace and baptism. (As if its one or the other “works vs grace”) “dry cleaners” The two are totally compatible with one another.

By their standards, I am an all wet, wine bibbing , overeating Christian.   I believe in water baptism, not for salvation, but because the Lord SAYS TO. And I believe in Communion, because the Lord SAYS TO. Simple.

These same sects will also speak against the Lords Supper as “not for us today”, as if we are not supposed to do it. They are just as legalistic about NOT baptising or observing the Lord’s supper as those they accuse for doing it.  They are just as dogmatic about not baptising and not having communion as the ones they accuse. “Kettle, meet pot”.

The Lord says to baptise, so why forbid baptism? The Lord says to remember his death at communion til he comes “as oft as ye do it” (think about it as being akin to visiting the grave of a loved one, but Jesus grave is empty-he’s alive, but I digress).

So why forbid the Lord’s supper? Why condemn others for their convictions?.

Jesus says “if you love me, keep my commandments” this was not in a salvific sense, but in regards to his commands and ordinances for the church.

What will Jesus find his church doing when he comes for her?

The gambler.

This post is a response to a a believer in pantheism, specifically the false god of pharoah, Isis. Ancient god of Eypt. She is found on the Eucharist today “ISIS, HORUS, SORUS.  ” I ” ” H” “S” overlaid letters on the eucharist.

In other false religions she is called Astoreth, Ashtar, Asanah, Allat, (a daughter of allah), Diana, queen of heaven, Semiramis and many other variants.)

Much like the baal priests in 1 Kings 18, he claimed his false god has all power. He denied Jesus exists, with no evidence to support the existence of his false god.

I responded:
Jesus is the most verifiable, confirmed man that ever walked the planet. He is the most celebrated, most sang about, most worshipped man alive. More songs have been written about Jesus than all other people combined. His resurrection is remembered every Sunday, and has been for the last 2000 years. He made the lame walk, the blind see , and the demons call him Lord. And you don’t need a Bible to confirm his existance, or his resurrection from the dead. He proved his power, and his love for all men. And he promises all that believe in him that they too will rise from the dead one day. INCLUDING YOU. Your false god has given you none of this. Do you gamble much?

The biggest hypocrites in the church: The legalists.

Legalists believe that Salvation is conditional upon behavior and performance after being saved, or “repentance”. They believe all past sins are forgiven, but any sins committed after initial repentance are to be repented of as you go along, or you will lose your salvation.

I am not advocating sin, nor do I believe a person loses salvation for sins after initial repentance. We should confess our sins to the Lord for our conscience sake, a right relationship and fellowship with the Lord, and for growth and maturity as Christians.

That said, It has nothing to do with keeping salvation. A believer cannot go to hell. He is bought with a price, the shed blood of Jesus. There are no returns in salvation, there are no refunds. The LAST thing a believer has to worry about is going to hell.

License? not hardly. Any believer has an intuitive knowledge he will give an account for his life – all of it- the good and the bad one day. This eventuality should be enough to motivate and restrain any believer. The Bible tells us we all will stand and give account and be rewarded accordingly. That reward will be in crowns , or in stripes for the rebellious ones. It has nothing to do with salvation. Luke 12:47. 1 Cor 5;5. We are accountable, we will give an answer, but again, not concerning salvation.

 

If one could lose salvation:

You would only be saved from one prayer to the next sin.

You would not know if you are going to heaven until after you are dead. You may die with a sin on your account, you just don’t know (the false gospel of enduring to the end).

If you die with one sin on your account you will go to hell. Just think. A life time of good works and faithfulness prior to that was a total waste. What a gamble. (Calvinism teaches this also).

Drug addicts and alcoholics would all go to hell. By extension, I guess nicotine and caffeine outa be included as well. They condemn others for the way they THINK they live, while asserting their own sinless perfection. H Y P O C R I T E S.

there is no security, peace or assurance in Lordship salvation. one day your head is in the clouds, a few hours later, your feet are in the flames. Get prayed up, repeat the process, YO YO salvation. slip in a few “doozie” sins in the meantime- you know, go ahead and get it out of your system before you get prayed up. Might as well live it up for a bit right? wrong.  You have fell from grace, and now you are riding the religion roller coaster. Now you are looking at the flesh, not the spirit.

If you could lose salvation, and get it back every time you lost it, then you could simply do as you want as long as you get prayed up and clean up good afterward. It really is a silly doctrine.  And truly hypocritical. It is not hard to see what such a doctrine evolves into. The doctrine of Lordship salvation is total nonsense.

See my other posts about Lordship  salvation and  Calvinism, and “the false gospel of enduring to the end”

 

Galatians 3:1 Oh foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

2This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

 4ave ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.

He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

 

Gal 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

 

“are ye so foolish? having began in the spirit, are you now made perfect by the flesh?”

The priesthood in the kingdom.

Jesus fulfilled Moses law under the Levitical priesthood. Jesus is a priest after the order of Milchisedek. We are under the Law of Christ, not Moses. Psalms 110:4, Hebrews 7:17. A change in the priesthood necessitates a change in the law.  Moses law is obsolete, and Judaism, with its priesthood is a dead religion.  When Jesus returns and institutes the priesthood, it will NOT be after the order of the Jew, but after the order of the Gentile, Milchisedek. This will help many understand the prophecies concerning the sacrifices and priesthood in the kingdom reign of Jesus. (during which we will be kings and priests)

Read The book of Hebrews for more understanding.  God bless you!